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rowanlim · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:54 am Post subject:

Sigh just shows the lack of maturity of that woman...How disappointing Confused

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calebdanvers · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:41 am Post subject:

Oh since normal SEX is unallowed. Mayb we can go for a threesome or fivesome. STUPID *****
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ash · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:58 am Post subject:

rowanlim · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject:

Yeah I don't think anyone can truly blame the guards, I recall someone telling me (was it you, ash? :p) that even they feel sorry that we have to live with such strict & crazy rules.

Management must remember THEY were young once & as I've learned through debate (thanks, sifu haha) that coercive behavior (meaning forcing people to do what they don't want to do) actually heightens criminal tendencies.

I'm not saying that UMP-ians will go & ransack Gambang because of the rules, but it certainly won't make us more willing to comply. If the rules were well-justified & very reasonable, I wouldn't complain. The problem is it's not.
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ash · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject:

(it was not me rowan hehee)
BTW, yes. Im totally agree with rowan...That was exactly what i wanted to deliver. Its just simply immature way of execution which never consider about consequences! Neutral

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radin87 · Amateur Joined: 17 Apr 2008 Posts: 151

i never thought that this thread will become so hot...

Well, i was the fifth generations of UMP. And i also has a friend who are the first generation student of UMP (kuktem at that time).
To tell you the truth, the UMP rules and regulations are bind to the core value of UMP.
Most of my friends has said, if anything is related to the core value such as the UMP policy.. they will unlikely to cooperate..

Like my fellow muslim friends said, UMP is more islamic than the Islamic Universities..

rowanlim · Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject:

The core values, as I recall, are fine. It's just how the admin inteprets it & execute their rules that is wrong. I remind that using common sense, forcing people to do things against their will, ESPECIALLY when they did NOTHING to deserve that kind of treatment, NEVER produces the best results.
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ash · Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject:

rowanlim · Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject:

^Yeah...I mean, c'mon, a HANDFUL of students got in trouble & to prevent it, you're going to FREEZE all of us? That's not how it should go...I believe for that woman, if she really wants to help us, GET LOOSE A LITTLE. Don't come up with rules that are so regimented & unreasonable. Be relaxed. That way, those couple who are POTENTIALLY problematic will feel more at ease talking to you & that's a better way to monitor & make sure things won't get out of hand. That's how you reduce it.

It's silly to say that we can cut the cases down to zero because students are HUMANS. Not all will be willing to comply to rules, no matter how pure the intention.
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radin87 · Amateur Joined: 17 Apr 2008 Posts: 151

I know what will their answer...
"It is for your own good.. we know whats the best for you and you still just a teenager in your rebellion stage.."

heh

rowanlim · Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject:

Sigh if they say that, I'll snort. As if. Please, don't insult me (not to you radin hahaha, I meant if the uni said that, that's my response). You've people stuffing wrong delusions about sex & stuff like that into our minds, I sure as hell don't appreciate it.

IMO, sex is a natural function. If God said it's a sin, then why on earth did He make it something so bloody pleasureable? I doubt God will want us to suffer while we reproduce. Sex is only wrong if done with bad intention (ie. to hurt someone) or without caution. The best way is to ADMIT that sex is natural, people will do it, some UMP-ians may give in to it. Forcing celibacy never works. Accept, give the right information, don't brainwash wrong thinking into our brains.

Imagine if there's a naive girl who believed all the crap that that woman said...I'll bet that girl will be scared to have a relationship because, oh Ms.H said that guys are after sex only, they only think of dirty stuff when they look at you, when she's married, sex becomes a duty instead of an intimate bond between husband & wife. While it may not be a problem for her, but she could have had a better relationship & better understanding of sex instead of warped comments from someone who sure has hell (I'm betting) hasn't had sex yet.
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calebdanvers · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:07 am Post subject:

Is it juz me or that THAT MISS H or THAT WOMAN u guyz are talking bout is a female chauvinist???

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rowanlim · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:19 am Post subject:

^I've loads of uncomplimentary things to say about her. She annoys the hell outta me Evil or Very Mad

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calebdanvers · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:32 am Post subject:

^I bet she does annoy the **** outta u....HAHAHHAHAHAHHA Laughing

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