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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Improvement of the OG Reply with quote

In this thread, please state the flaws/weaknesses of the OG. I will use the options & perhaps we can run a poll if necessary.

My opinions:
1. Lack of commitment from members
2. Bureaucracy & red tape@HEPA
3. Insufficient training/rehearsals
4. Insufficient instruments
5. Lack of performing members
6. Insufficient resources eg sheet music
7. OG MT's poor management

Please feel free to add to the list.

REMEMBER: The purpose of this thread is to IDENTIFY the weaknesses in the OG & hopefully we can remedy them to improve the OG.

Thanks Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um... no IMPROVEMENT OR SUGGESTION can be given? Question Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ash wrote:
Um... no IMPROVEMENT OR SUGGESTION can be given? Question Rolling Eyes


Means the list is complete or there's nothing there to improve? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um... Wat i meant is : As written in ur 1st post: ... IDENTIFY the weaknesses... means just the weaknesses can be listed? how bout if there is any suggestion? can suggestions be listed as well? Question
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah sure. List suggestions too if you want. We're here to discuss how to improve the group. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Opinion:
1 No perform chances given to student members...why do u think they will show lots of commitment. This is not just applied to "student members", some of those "not-so-qualified members" also didnt given chances to show their abilities.

(what i think is: we need to give chances, small or big, to let other OG members to perform, in small or big occasions...Not just let the old performers to take over everything everytime...Well of course, you all can evaluate whether such instrument positions can be confidently taken over by the new performers or not. BUT REMEMBER, old performers might not be here forever...If new one not given any chance, how are they going to survive when there are no seniors? Plus this will make all your efforts now to be wasted in the future...)

*I'll add more opinion when I know how to deliver the correct information next time*
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah true. I remember we wanted to let new members perform every month. But we never got to do that... Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah true. I remember we wanted to let new members perform every month. But we never got to do that... Sad

Hm yea thats one... What i meant is the REAL performance (for UMP or outside) Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rowanlim wrote:
Yeah true. I remember we wanted to let new members perform every month. But we never got to do that... Sad

Hm yea thats one... What i meant is the REAL performance (for UMP or outside) Confused


You mean go OUTSIDE to perform? Shocked

I'm not sure about that either...So far it has to be by invite I guess.

Malam Inspirasi Seni 2008 was supposed to be one of our biggest performances outside the uni, apart from Convo...I'm not sure how are we going to perform outside Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You mean go OUTSIDE to perform? Shocked

I'm not sure about that either...So far it has to be by invite I guess.

Malam Inspirasi Seni 2008 was supposed to be one of our biggest performances outside the uni, apart from Convo...I'm not sure how are we going to perform outside Confused

I didnt mean that...Wat i meant was TO GIVE CHANCES for new performers to perform in REAL performances in UMP OR outside...(NOT just always the same performers to perform...OR GOOD PLAYERS to perform)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh now I understand. Yeah I guess we didn't really follow up on what we said we'd do.

Hm well perhaps we can't do that in this sem, time's quite tight...I think we should just go ahead & have a performance every month. The performers shall be new performers, not the same group of people. I think we can do it like a half hour show, where every section will have to present a piece. What do you think? Like a recital.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess, its not easy to do those perfomance (need pratice n vanue to perform it)
CHOIR oso planned to do these perfomance but progress =0 until now..
somebody gonna steps d 1st STEP....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xiao he wrote:
i guess, its not easy to do those perfomance (need pratice n vanue to perform it)
CHOIR oso planned to do these perfomance but progress =0 until now..
somebody gonna steps d 1st STEP....


Yeah true...For myself, I'm quite shy to perform in REALLY public places like at shopping malls Embarassed

We really need to plan about things like this
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

em... d main problem is tat d commiment of the members~

assignment, test, quiz, report, PT,presentations, entertainment, friends, home, etc.. which 1 come 1st in ur heart??

haha... juz giving my view
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xiao he wrote:
em... d main problem is tat d commiment of the members~

assignment, test, quiz, report, PT,presentations, entertainment, friends, home, etc.. which 1 come 1st in ur heart??

haha... juz giving my view


True, it's hard because everyone has their own lives too, they've got so many things going on...Sometimes it's extra hard when the dates clash with tests etc...I guess it's all a matter of working really hard to make up for it
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